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Author Topic: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me  (Read 1045 times)

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Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« on: December 10, 2018, 08:08:01 AM »
Hello.

So, the dreaded day has arrived - yesterday evening my trustworthy Alhambra (2003 1.9TDI 85 kW AUY) showed signs of some serious issues for the first time.

I parked it by the house on Saturday.
Came to pick it up yesterday evening.
I started it and immediately heard that it was idling rough, with a sound that (in my non-experienced mind) made me think as if all cylinders were not working).

It stuttered a bit, the panel lighting changing brightness slightly. It had not been cold at all, around zero Celsius at the most.

I left it to warp up some and went inside.

After about 20 minutes the idling had become normal, so I figured I would be fine.
I had to drive throgh the city. I got in, drove out on to the street and noticed it had no power and for some reason at 2 and a bit over RPMs did not want to put it in gear 3 (I think). After a few minutes it did allow to change gears but did it with a stuttering. At that point I figured the auto gearbox had died...


I parked it, turned off the engine.
Turned it back on - idle was normal, drove it again and gears changed perfectly fine and it had power and all.

After about 15 minutes of city driving (~50ish kmph), at a red light, it started to idle rogh again (stuttering, could see the RPM falling a bit). Started to drive, did not want to accelerate properly, stuttered...did not want to change gears too..but could change gears via the semi manual shifting mode.

Got to where I needed, parked it.
Put it in P and sat there for a bit.

It was idling a BIT rough..and every time ir reved it slighly, i could feel it shaking.

What puzzles me is that, when it was driving fine, the gearbox was switching gears perfectly fine..

My first though was something to do with fuel delivery...also because I am due for a fuel filter change.

Hope you can understand what I wrote. I will take it to a shop tomorrow, just would like to hear similar experiences.

Before this - everything was fine...except for some morning when I would not be able to crank it for the first few times. Never had rough idling, never had wonky RPMs, acceleration was always fine.


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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2018, 08:14:27 AM »
Forgot to add - yellow circle with an exclamation mark shows up on the panel.

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2018, 08:57:27 AM »
The gearbox relies on information from the engine ECU so anything causing the engine to run rough will effect gear changes.
Sounds like you may have injector loom fault, this can be confirmed by a diagnostic scan usually on cylinder 1 or 2.
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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2018, 09:04:19 AM »
Loom? as in wiring? or actual fuel circuits running to the injectors?

sad part is...maybe it is just a coincidence but this occured some days after I filled up gas for the first time in a different gas station (been faithful to only 2 major brand gas stations the whole time)...

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2018, 09:09:21 AM »
OK, I now understand that it is wiring.
Thanks, any advice will be appreciated so I can talk it over with my mechanic.
Apart from this, the car has been running good...and I would not like to see it go yet :/

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2018, 09:18:12 AM »
As above could be the injector loom as it’s quite common but also don’t rule out poor fuel as it coincided with a change of filling station.
Get it plugged in and have codes read,and also check measure blocks for injector correction.
Might also be worth changing fuel filter as the condition of fuel can be checked aswell

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2018, 10:10:57 AM »
I was about to change engine oil, engile oil filter and pollen filter (btw, is it just me or do you have to remove the wiper assembly to be able to take the filter out?!) and have them already with me. Now, ordered a fuel filter to and once I have it (tomorrow) will bring the car to the shop.

Thanks for the information.

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2018, 10:24:31 AM »
If poor fuel, after the filter is changed, are there any more actions to be taken due to por fuel quality?
I never let the tank fuel level go below 1/4 (have been often suggested so because of possible sedimentation).

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2018, 02:39:47 PM »
The pollen filter is a bit of a pig but it can be done without taking wiper assembly out.
As for the 1/4 tank of fuel the pick up for the in tank pump is at bottom anyway so if there is sediment in there it will be picked up and caught by the filter in there.
If it’s poor quality fuel causing your issues then I would drain as much out as possible and fill with fresh. However I do feel it’s unlikely to be this but something worth checking when you do the filter. Much more likely to be injector loom.

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2018, 07:53:36 PM »
Fuel filter arrived. Drove the car 5 km over to the shop and tomorrow I will hand it over to the mechanic and see how it goes from there. Wish me luck.
At times, it let me go up to 3rd gear, but no more...for a brief moment 40ish kmph.
Thanks for all the info.

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2018, 11:13:20 AM »
So, I trust my mechanic and have not seen the faults they read today as I am yet to go talk to them, but over the phone he explained that basically the assumption is that it is due to worn cam shaft rockers or whatever they are called.
He was pretty sure it is an actual problem that requires getting inside the engine.

I know you guys will want to see the fault codes, but does it sound like anything remotely possible at all?

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2018, 11:20:31 AM »
The car just hit 300 000km..I have been using Motul oil for the last ~45000 km or so..so I am wondering if it could be just normal wear due to the car's age..

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2018, 11:32:21 AM »
Worn camshafts and lifters are quite common on PD engines especially if non PD oil has been used. Basically the cam has extra lobes to run the injectors so surface area is not as wide as cams in other engines. This causes accelerated wear.

I used correct PD oil in mine post head work and always changed no later than 6000miles to preserve cam shaft life.

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2018, 11:46:52 AM »
I have been using Motul 8100 X-clean SAE 5W40. Good or bad? Ever since I got the car, so, for about 45000 now.

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2018, 12:52:07 PM »
So long as it meets vw 505 spec the PD engine needs it should be fine

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2018, 01:11:35 PM »
Yes, it does.
So, I have decided to give the mechanic the green light to open up the valve cover and see how bad is it, and we will work from there on.
Wish me luck.

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2018, 02:13:06 PM »
Engine wear happens over a period of time unless caused by oil pump failure or severe overheating, I can't see worn cam lobes and followers giving intermittent misfiring and loss of power. But you need to get the cam cover off to change the loom so won't be wasted.
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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2018, 02:32:30 PM »
Has not been overheated, at least not while during my ownership.
Going to talk to the mechanic in person in about 30 minutes.
I fully trust him, but will ask if he has ruled out the injector wiring loom being at fault.

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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2018, 06:28:41 AM »
Hello!

Forgot to update - so, when the mechanics took off the valve cover the issue turned out to be some broken injector loom wire.
Don't know the repair costs, but supposedly everything is fine, replaced regular maintenance stuff - engine oil, oil filter, pollen filter.
Picking it up later today and will have a chat with the mechanic then.

Of course, was happy to hear it. Everyone is saying I should sell my Alhambra lol, because I am driving it alone mostly, but I am leaning towards driving it till the end...rust has long been let out of hand..and there are other things that would make selling it not worth it..at the same time I have been using its spacious trunk very welll and still have plans for it..so..might as well make the best of it while it is still running lol


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Re: Alhambra 1.9TDI 85kW AUY dying on me
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2018, 12:05:42 PM »
 [GJ]
2009 Kia Sedona GS In Black 2.9CRDI 183PS. 5 Speed Manual WAV.
2003 MK2 Galaxy Ghia In Solid Black 1.9 TDI 115PS. 5 Speed Automatic.

Upgraded Eberspächer booster heater  to independent heating with 7 day timer.

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