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Author Topic: Blown turbo on MOT  (Read 311 times)

Offline hedgie63

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Blown turbo on MOT
« on: October 04, 2019, 09:34:42 PM »
Took my car for mot today and it failed on emissions.
Garage said it needed an oil and filter change to clean the emissions.
They did the change and then went to re test and the turbo was whining then a clanging noise and the engine stopped apparently.

They are saying the propeller on the turbo has gone  and has goosed the engine somehow!!!

Is this just bad luck or could they have caused it.

Ford Galaxy 2.0tdci mk2 56 plate 145000 miler

Offline SirDavidAlhambra

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Re: Blown turbo on MOT
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2019, 10:27:35 PM »
Did they rev it really high, as if it were a formula one car?
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Offline johnnyroper

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Re: Blown turbo on MOT
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2019, 10:43:42 PM »
Without seeing the damage itís hard to say if they caused it or if itís just coincidence. What I donít buy though is an oil and filter causing emissions to fail. Fuel filter,air filter yes but not oil and filter.

In response to other poster yes they will rev engine to perform the smoke test,they have to do that but that will not cause the turbo to fail unless there is an underlying problem.

I think what you need to do is take the car elsewhere to be checked out as I would be concerned they are trying to cover something up or just guessing at the fault.

Offline hedgie63

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Re: Blown turbo on MOT
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2019, 10:46:18 PM »
Sadly I didn't stay with it for the mot. Dropped it off and went to work.

The turbo has always made a whistling noise since I bought the car 12 months ago but got told it was normal. Just don't know now if it was already on it's way out or they have knackered it.

Cost of a replacement turbo plus any other damage is going to run into £1000+ so can't see me getting it repaired.

Offline hedgie63

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Re: Blown turbo on MOT
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2019, 10:48:40 PM »
Without seeing the damage itís hard to say if they caused it or if itís just coincidence. What I donít buy though is an oil and filter causing emissions to fail. Fuel filter,air filter yes but not oil and filter.

In response to other poster yes they will rev engine to perform the smoke test,they have to do that but that will not cause the turbo to fail unless there is an underlying problem.

I think what you need to do is take the car elsewhere to be checked out as I would be concerned they are trying to cover something up or just guessing at the fault.

What I will say though is that about a month ago I had the engine management light come on and a fault code of P2263 which I believe is turbo related. When I restarted the car the light went out and hasn't been on again since.

Offline johnnyroper

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Re: Blown turbo on MOT
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2019, 07:11:45 AM »
Sounds like itís just been a coincidence that it has failed on them given itís been a bit noisy for a while and it threw a code a month or so back.

I canít see that it would have knackered the engine though,even a catastrophic turbo failure will be contained to a certain degree. If any bits did come off impeller then they would have to travel through intercooler to reach the engine.

If it was me I would get a recon turbo and stick that on,with old one have a good look and see how itís failed and if any bits missing. If there is then a clean through of intercooler and boost pipes will be needed.

The only way I can see garage are responsible is if they did oil and filter change and somehow forgot to put oil in before starting it. That would cause turbo and engine damage.


« Last Edit: October 05, 2019, 07:16:15 AM by johnnyroper »

Offline SirDavidAlhambra

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Re: Blown turbo on MOT
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2019, 07:58:38 AM »
Good advice here, as always.

My first instinct was that they drained the oil out then started the engine and revved it like a formula 1 car. You know how garages can be, most of them donít know the first thing about cars.

HOWEVER - if you had that fault code previously, and given its mileage, and given also the whining noise and the need to rev the car during the MOT - I suspect it was just coincidental that it blew during the MOT.

Iíd just get the new turbo fitted. I recently had a turbo changed and paid £750. That was with a brand new Garrett turbo, not reconditioned. Iím very wary of reconditioned turbos these days (many have had good experiences with them, I personally have only ever had grief and consider it not worth trying to save £100 by gambling on a unit which might or might not be as good as the seller says it is).

Plus always make sure you use the right oil. A lot of garages donít even bother checking and just chuck 10w-40 in whatever car rolls in for a service.
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all.

Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

Offline mike wilson

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Re: Blown turbo on MOT
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2019, 08:42:31 AM »
Where did you get a new Garrett for £750?  I want one of those.

Offline SirDavidAlhambra

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Re: Blown turbo on MOT
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2019, 08:57:55 AM »
From Euros with a discount code... they told me it was genuine and not remanufactured??
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all.

Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

Offline mike wilson

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Re: Blown turbo on MOT
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2019, 09:06:14 AM »
OK, thanks.  I'll keep an eye out for that.

Offline SirDavidAlhambra

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Re: Blown turbo on MOT
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2019, 12:28:07 PM »
Iíve found that the best time to get discount codes for Euros is just before a bank holiday weekend. Sometimes they have some really good deals on. Easiest way to find the codes is by googling for coupons and checking the voucher sites. A few years ago I got something like 65% off oils so I stocked up and am still working my way through the stuff! He he
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all.

Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

Offline brianh

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Re: Blown turbo on MOT
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2019, 07:17:00 PM »
Best I had off them was when they delisted Valvoline oils, and were clearing stock, 20l for £25 collection only, I've almost used all of it up now but was a bargain for the amount.

Offline SirDavidAlhambra

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Re: Blown turbo on MOT
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2019, 07:09:38 AM »
Now thatís what I call a bargain. I hear that Valvoline is a really good brand too!  :)
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all.

Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

 

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