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central locking options
« on: January 16, 2013, 07:23:13 PM »
hi guys.  :) ok so ive just bought this v reg galaxy which i bought knowing it had a few problems to sort including the central locking but am i better off fitting a aftermarket kit or attempting to fix the origional setup? reason i ask is because ive got the swimming pool in the front passenger footwell due to the rear washer pipe coming adrift and im not sure if the central locking module has has a bath as not sure of the location of it at the minute.id like to fix the locking thats allready fitted but if its gunna cost the earth id rather get a aftermarket jobbie.anyone ever fitted one? easy to do? cheers guys  ;D

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Re: central locking options
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2013, 02:47:04 PM »
Your CL module should be up behind thr dash, it was only the very early ones where it was under the seat. I would suggest one or more wires in the door loom is broken as to why its not working. Fitting an aftermarket kit is easy enough if you have some wiring experience but its always preferable to repair the original!
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Re: central locking options
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2013, 07:07:13 PM »
cheers for the reply mirez. :) ok this is gunna sound like ive been sniffing the bostik but i opened the boot on the car today and the rear indicators flashed......... something the car has never done since i got it as the central locking/alarm didnt work.i tryed to open the drivers door............this opens when i feels likes it lol and it opened but made a whiring noise this time.me thinking no it cant be and long and behold the central locking started to work again!  :o...................BUT if i lock the car from the outside with they key all the doors lock and the red led in the drivers door flashes but when i try to unlock the car with the key it opens most of the time but rolls down all the windows and dead locks the interior handles so they cant open the doors from the inside. it i tryed to turn ignition on to roll up the windows with the handles dead locked  but wouldnt roll any of them up. i had to turn the key in the lock which disabled the dead locking from the interior handles and allowed me to roll the windows up but the rear passenger one would nearly close then bounce open a few times before closing. ive found that if i open the rear door drivers side and lock the doors from the inside i can unlock it from the outside no problem. ??? is there a way to disable the global closure thing.? cheers guys. im going to try to reprograme the remote tomorrow but not sure it will work due the windows rolling down all the time. :)

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Re: central locking options
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2013, 08:07:59 PM »
The wiring in the door gaiters is a very common problem.
As Mirez has said.
What also happens is when the key is turned to lock/unlock the door when you remove the key from the lock barrel the lock hasn't returned to central position.
Try removing the outer door handle, to do that with door open remove the single torx screw parallel with the handle slide handle towards the front then gently pull out.
You will then see the paddle that slots into the lock, put the key in the lock turn from lock to unlock holding the paddle with other hand, there should be no slack between the key and paddle.
Close the door.

Then with handle still removed operate the lock through the hole with a screwdriver holding lock over more than a few seconds should operate global opening/closing
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Re: central locking options
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 07:14:07 AM »
ive had the handles out on the front doors when i got the car as only the passenger side would work so i switched them over.the drivers handle. now fitted on passenger side was hard to put the key in the lock and didnt want to break my only key for the doors. need to get a copy cut. :) ive had a look on line and come across these lock barrel repair kits that come with a spring.i dont recall there been a spring when i took the handle out. also the lock unit itself in the door has a rectangular hole in it that thr paddle fits into........... someones been in it before me and i think somwthing is missing as the paddle aint a snugg fit.could they be maybe a insert missing that goes over the paddle and fits in the rectangular hole in the lock? or maybe a spring that i saw in the repair kit? cheers for the replys guys once again. cant believe such a good car can have such annoying faults.  >:(

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Re: central locking options
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2013, 12:59:43 PM »
Can't stress enough you need to check out the drivers door gaiter wiring first then maybe the other doors.

And of course the tailgate suffers the same.

You possibly wont see the spring until you dismantle the handle unless of course it's missing.

Did you work the central locking with screwdriver in the slot as suggested, you need door closed to do this

Its a fact the handbooks are not set in stone there are mistakes so I would check each fuse individually as the car is new to you.
You will need your radio code

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Re: central locking options
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2013, 02:24:57 PM »
i aint looked at it again yet due to work but as soon as i do i,ll let you guys know how i get on. someone has been into the wiring loom in the door jambs as the rubber gaiter has been disturbed. think there are broke wires in the tail gate too as the rear number plate lights keep going off then returning. this car is possessed lol.  :D

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Re: central locking options
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 09:22:10 PM »
just a quick update. the central locking has died again lol  :).the passenger side footwell is soaked though due to the rear washer pipe has come apart. aint looked into that yet though. im assuming it either runs under the carpet or along the door sill somewhere. just wondering where the central locking module is. if it   
is under the passenger seat or that general area some where it will be somped so thats probably why its stopped working.ive put my hand under the front of the passenger seat and felt a wirig loom but no control box.  >:(

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Re: central locking options
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 09:47:24 PM »
as yours is a mk 1 then theres a chance that it has mullard the c/locking unit.as the pipe runs just above it with a join in it.
personally i wouldnt be waiting to investigate it.
iirc if your very lucky you may be able to remove the unit and dry it out in your airing cupboard then reinstall it on washers to lift the unit up.
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Re: central locking options
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2013, 09:54:06 PM »
Pipe runs along the sill under the door scuff plates - the join is close to the front of the door opening (ie, dash end).

The CL module is under the passenger side seat on P, R and some S plates - it got moved out of harms way after that.
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Re: central locking options
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2013, 10:12:56 PM »
cheers guys. :) hopefully should have a look tomorrow. :)

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Re: central locking options
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2013, 07:57:35 PM »
hey guys. just a quick update. :) i manged to have  quick look at the rear washer hose today and rejoined it but still had no luck finding the cl module.also put 2 tie wraps on the pipe to stop it happening again.  :) mines v reg so am i right that the cl module is behind the dash and not on the floor? just need to find the damn thing now. just seams weird because when the weather was icey the central locking worked and when the snow and ice went it packed up. my first thought was the water had frozen when it was snowing so the water didnt short it out. still got the wires in the door jamb to look at yet but whats the best way to test the wires to see if there broken?.......as in if the outer sleeve isnt damaged? cheers guys for all your help.  8)   

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Re: central locking options
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2013, 10:56:40 PM »
V reg will have the cl module built into the bcm but its unlikely to be the fault, wiring in the door is the favourite. 90% of the time the sleave will be damaged so an easy find but to fully diagnose internally broken wires you would have to perform a continuity test preferably by taking the loom out of the car. Do the visual test first, I would bet you'll discover the fault quickly ;)
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Re: central locking options
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2013, 08:50:32 PM »
cheers mirez. had a quick look at the wiring in the drivers door jamb today and they dont appear to be any damaged wires..........well not the outer sleeve of the wire anyway.i need to get my tester out to see if the lock is even getting 12 volts. can a relay become intermitent? as in work one minute then totaly pack up? no click or anything. also discovered today that drivers side footwell im also somped too. wondering if the water has shorted sumit out. more to the point where is it coming in? bloody car lol.  >:(

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Re: central locking options
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2013, 10:11:35 PM »
1st thing to check is the rear washer pipe,look in the faqs for info.if no joy there then see if your pollen filter is blocked.if the c/l unit is flooded YOU might be luckey by taking it out and putting it in your airing cupboard but dont hold your breathe.
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Re: central locking options
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2013, 08:26:22 PM »
cheers gregers.the washer pipe had come adrift........ like this when i bought it.now sorted and im currently mopping up the water in the passenger footwell and its alot dryer than it was. reason it went unnoticed when the car was bought is it has thick rubber mats down in the front so it wernt visable.  >:( central locking is currently working but not for long  ??? raining tonight so if the drain holes are blocked/pollen filter is knackard  and more water is getting into the car and into the electrics then it probably wont work tomorrow. the paddles in the front doors where knackard thats why most of the time it rolled the windows down when the key was turned in the lock. temporarily fixed the drivers side handle till i can get them replaced when im off work.  ;D cheers for the info guys.  :)

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Re: central locking options
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2013, 08:47:29 PM »
hey guys. just a quick update. while sorting the rear speakers in the rear doors.........i had a closer look at the wiring in the rear  drivers side door jamb and supprise supprise i found 2 damaged wires........ :) a thick brown one and a thick red one with a yellow stripe if i remember rightly.ive taped them up for now in case they touch and short out but need to find some suitable wire to repair the broken wires.theres probably more broken wires in the door jambs but aint found them yet. 8) 

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Re: central locking options
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2013, 09:21:05 PM »
That sounds like the electric window supply (the thickest wires in the loom). My last gal I ended up taking all 5 door looms out and rebuilding them :(
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Re: central locking options
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2013, 10:00:34 PM »
rear windows work so i guess the wires aint broken inside then. bet that was a head ache.  :o going to use heat shrink on the joints of the wires when i repair them  8)

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Re: central locking options
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2013, 08:05:00 PM »
hey guys. :) just a quick update. i finialy got round to looking at the wiring in the tail gate today. lets just say i should of took pictures. every wire was either snapped or insulation was broke so the wires could touch and short out. just wondering why some mornings the battery is nearly flat. :D so ive spend about two hours cutting out all the damaged wiring out and replacing it n just when i thought i was done i removed the rubber gaiter and found more split insulation on the wires. :o never seen anything like it! so repairing the wires iv now have working rear fogs.a non intermitent wiper that parks properly every time.  :) heated screen works all the time now.BUT............... i now have a working solenoid in the boot so couldnt  lock the boot so ive had to disconnect the wiring for now.as for the multiplugs in the door jambs.........ive tryed to undo the to inspect the wiring but could only undo the the drivers side rear wiring which looked ok apart from the leci window wires and the passenger side plug could be undone but wiring looked fine. i,ll suss it in the end lol  8)
 

 

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