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Author Topic: Galaxy electrical gremlins ! .... more advice required please  (Read 2627 times)

Offline sirdavid995

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hi fellas ,I have just returned from a week away in Norfolk with the family , our TDI ran lovely after I serviced it before we left , but , unfortunately , the old  electrical gremlins popped up while we were there ! :(
before we left I told the wife and kids not to use any electric windows ( as I was aware from the advice given here that there may be a door wiring problem ) all was fine until we got to Norfolk, unpacked then went to the local Morrisons there for a food shop . I parked the car up and locked it as normal , but when I came back to the car after shopping , I noticed that the drivers side front window had opened by about an inch and a half. I could not ( and still cannot ) get it to go back up . as we were staying in a chalet park I had no way to power an extension , no soldering iron or heat shrink , and an extremely basic tool kit that i borrowed from my other halfs dad  , I attempted a "quick fix" with crimping pliers and  insulated spade connectors that were in the basic tool kit . after disconnecting the battery , I first checked the drivers door to find 2 wires had broken . I temporarily repaired them using spades, and also 6 wires had broken in the passenger rear door also . again, I did a temp repair of that too ,  I could not do the other doors though ,  as I ran out of spade  connectors :(
i took the drivers side switch assembly off and cleaned it all up and tried the o/s window . before i got nothing from the switch ( no click or motor noise ) but after my temp repair i could hear the motor when i moved the switch up and down , it sounded like the motor was trying to operate the window but the window didn't move either way . could it be a jammed/seized window motor or the window regulator that's at fault now ? as before, i had no sound when i used the switch but now i do .  :(
are there any tutorials on here for removing the window motor /regulator assemblies on the front and back door by any chance ?
hope someone can help me here .
i have noticed on ebay that there are loads of new regulator repair kits for sale

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Re: Galaxy electrical gremlins ! .... more advice required please
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2016, 01:41:48 pm »
also ,  i found that when i removed the lock ring from the drivers side door , the red and black sealing ring came off with the male plug and the socket went inside the pillar ( grrr.... )  after some fiddling i managed to sort it . is there an access point to the back of the front pillars to push the plug back out if this happens ?  when i did the rear door loom i found that when i pulled back the door seal and eased the interior pillar trim ( where the front seatbelt is fixed)  out slightly, there is a little black plastic door under that trim on the door pillar to access the rear door pillar female sockets . but the front door pillar female sockets  seem loads harder to access from the back . again, a tutorial on how to overcome this would be great for us newbies :)
thanks again guys :)

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Re: Galaxy electrical gremlins ! .... more advice required please
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2016, 02:17:13 pm »
The rear of plug can be accessed by removing the kick panel by your foot,from memory couple of screws and clips secure it in place then when off you can pull sound proofing back and get at the rear of plug.

Not too sure about the motor or reg as never had mine out but I would say more likely door wiring as there are a couple of feeds to motor if memory serves. There is the large brown wire (earth) large red wire (live) then the smaller wires to give signal to motor for it to move up or down.
If was seized they usually start to struggle and groan first but as yours just clicks I would suspect one of the big wires has broken.

Easiest way I found is remove door card and take loom out you can then solder extension pieces in to loom on the bench.

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Re: Galaxy electrical gremlins ! .... more advice required please
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2016, 02:20:39 pm »
thanks buddy, i'll give it a go :)

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Re: Galaxy electrical gremlins ! .... more advice required please
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2016, 02:27:58 pm »
No problem,with it out you can also slide the gaitor back so you are not fighting with that in a small space. Especially easier if you have numerous cables to repair.

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Re: Galaxy electrical gremlins ! .... more advice required please
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2016, 02:43:30 pm »
that will be a better way  to do the job , my fingers were killing me ,trying to hold the gaiters down and also strip/connect wires in 2 doors in blistering heat whilst kneeling in a gravelly car park last week ...... I was a very unhappy bunny then too ! lol   
thanks for the tips bud :)

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Re: Galaxy electrical gremlins ! .... more advice required please
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2016, 09:42:59 am »
hi guys . just to let you know ,I finally sorted the drivers side window at last ! :) the temporary crimped spade connector job didn't work as one connector came off the earth wire . so I took the advice of removing the loom from the door and did the proper solder and heat shrink method which works a treat :) ....  window operates brill now ! :) and no more hazard lights flashing 3 times when I operate the switch now too  :) thought the temp fix would have helped me out of a mess in the middle of nowhere ,but the crimp tool was a cheap , monkey metal thing that started bending when you applied any pressure :(   but that was all I had at the time . bridging and.soldering is definitely the best repair option !
the female socket in the door pillar was a pig to keep retained while refitting the door loom though , it didn't retain with the gasket ring and ,although it was properly through the hole in the panel , it was loose as compared to the back door I did last week . I removed kick panel as suggested, there still wasn't a great amount of access for my fat fingers ! lol ;) but it did help though.
 I have just got the passenger rear door loom to remove the temp spade connectors I fitted  and then properly bridge , solder and heat shrink now ,then hopefully that window and door lock will work again ! but that door is loads easier for me to access :)

just want to say thanks again to everyone for the help and advice here  :)
« Last Edit: July 26, 2016, 09:51:53 am by sirdavid995 »

 

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