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Author Topic: Gear change  (Read 4519 times)

Offline Musogen

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Gear change
« on: March 18, 2014, 12:48:10 AM »
Another fault has developed over the last week: gearbox won't change from 6 to 5. Everything else is fairly smooth if taken gently except 1 to 2, and 4 to 5 is fine, but 6 into 5 won't go! 6-4-5 works, and double declutching can work when I get it right...

Any thoughts?

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Re: Gear change
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2014, 09:07:52 AM »
What about 5th into 6th instead of the other way round? Has the car done a lot of miles?
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Re: Gear change
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2014, 09:41:38 AM »
5 to 6 is fine, it's only 6 to 5 which won't go. It does work when the bus is stationary...

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Re: Gear change
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2014, 09:59:57 AM »
Interesting, it could be something as simple as gear cables needing adjustment but if it goes one way but not the other then I'd be thinking gear selector issues, either with the selector mechanism turret itself or the forks. If it is an internal fault I would hope it was the turret and not the forks because the forks will need a complete gearbox strip to sort whereas the turret can be unbolted from the top of the gearbox! Just as a side thought, did the problem start at the same time your speedo went awol?

Also, if it selects ok when the vehicle is stationary (i.e, no torque/ drive being transmitted through the gearbox) then I wonder if it could have something to do with worn bearings or something broken off in the gearbox, seems a bit of a coincidence that speedo has gone wrong as well, usually the speed sensor picks up it's signal pulses from a ring on the differential, if something has worn/ broken it could be throwing things out of alignment sufficiently to affect the speed sensor reading and gear selection, or jamming something up if there is debris.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2014, 10:07:32 AM by insanitybeard »
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Re: Gear change
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2014, 10:07:25 AM »
No, speedo has been misbehavin' for months/years...
Are there any posts about the turret if I look hard enough??

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Re: Gear change
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2014, 10:11:08 AM »
Sorry, just edited my above post- I think there's a chance the problems with the speedo and gear selection could be related. I'm not sure selector issues are overly common with the 6 speed manual, especially affecting top gear, it'll need somebody else to chime in regarding removing/ checking the turret, I can't speak from experience on that one.
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Re: Gear change
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2014, 10:47:42 AM »
When you say goes in gear OK when stationary is this with the engine running or not running?
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Re: Gear change
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2014, 12:14:57 PM »
I was going to say: stationary with engine running and it goes into 5th without any bother, but have just tried it again and it went from 6 to 5 OK, then I couldn't get into 5 or 6, then after 1, 2, 3, 4 it went into 5 and 6 again, then it didn't... This was all standing still, I've never (yet) had bother getting through 4 to 5 to 6 when on the road.

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Re: Gear change
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2014, 12:25:10 PM »
Am getting the feeling this is a clutch not clearing problem, can you select the gears easier  with the engine off or is it the same.
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Re: Gear change
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2014, 02:03:25 PM »
I am getting really confused now! Sometimes it is dead easy to slip through all the gears when stationary, engine running or not, then something changes or moves and I can't get 5, or 6, or both until I fiddle about with the lower gears, or let the clutch in to move things when the engine is running... results are variable and I can't see a pattern.

When driving it is only 6 to 5 which causes trouble; to get direct from 6 to 5 needs extra revving, even without 'double declutching', or I have to go via 4 to get the cogs spinning... or sometimes just fiddling the gearstick in neutral without any revving is enough get it in to 5.

As for the clutch, it was replaced last year - the old dual mass wheel had to be cut out! I'm not aware of any drag.

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Re: Gear change
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2014, 03:28:21 PM »
So if it is randomly still not right with the engine off or on then the linkage and cables is most likely, internal gearbox faults are not unheard of but less common.
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