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Author Topic: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling  (Read 15416 times)

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grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« on: March 05, 2012, 10:04:32 PM »
hi I've had my glow plugs changed but sometimes when i strike up my engine seams to struggle when it's idling, if it was petrol i would say a spark plug isn't working, but it's a diesel.
There is grey or white ish, smoke coming out of the exhaust pipe. The engine seams fine when it's not idling
I have been told in another post that i need to replace the 109 relay to sort out another problem that i have.
Does anybody know if this is all related?  ???
All the problems seam to be coming all at once :'( :'(

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2012, 11:09:50 PM »
relay109 sends power to the glowplugs so it could easily be related
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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2012, 03:11:46 AM »
Did you change the glow plugs to cure this problem or has this happened since then
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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2012, 08:03:27 AM »
I was just changing the plugs as i'm having starting problems and found 1 to be not working, i thought that this may solve the smoke problem but no it's still there.

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2012, 08:51:28 AM »
You really should address the non starting issue first as when it fails to start it will still be putting diesel into the cylinders which will then have to burn off.

As grant says 109 powers the glow plug relay but also a number of other circuits and any number of them could cause a bad idle:

Glow plug relay
ECU Supply
MAF sensor
Cold start injector
Fuel quantity adjuster
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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2012, 09:34:36 AM »
I was just changing the plugs as i'm having starting problems and found 1 to be not working, i thought that this may solve the smoke problem but no it's still there.
In that case you may have faults stored for faulty injector wiring or some of the other faults listed.
Scan with Vagcom it may save you time and guide you.
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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2012, 04:18:35 PM »
hi i have scanned with the vag com and i have these things to report, they mean not alot to me:

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fault code 01135 interoir monitoring sensors
35-10--- intermittent

airbag
fault code 00532 supply voltage b+
07-10 signal too low intermittent

aux heater
fault code 01491 glowplug for heater (Q9)
36-00 open circuit

auto hvac
fault code 01271 positioning motor for temp flap (V68)
009 open or short to ground

fault code 00926 terminal 30
002 lower limit exceeded

fault code 01189 shareware version

this is what came up on the screen any help would be most grateful think i used the vag com right, is there a right and wrong way?




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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2012, 04:28:38 PM »
sorry just to ask when i used the vag com certain parts didn't work. no response from controller came up alot didn't know if anything was missed or not,  :'( is that norma?l  :-[

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2012, 04:32:40 PM »
You really should address the non starting issue first as when it fails to start it will still be putting diesel into the cylinders which will then have to burn off.

As grant says 109 powers the glow plug relay but also a number of other circuits and any number of them could cause a bad idle:

Glow plug relay
ECU Supply
MAF sensor
Cold start injector
Fuel quantity adjuster
Waste gate valve
Change over valve
EGR vacuum regulator

Have ordered relay 109 from vw £14.99 + vat collecting tomorrow, thank you for the link on how to get to the fuse box, so much detail thank you

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2012, 05:55:41 PM »
You are very welcome (yes I will steal Chris's credit whenever possible lol  :P )! To answer the vagcom questions as long as its scanning then you are ok, generally scan for codes with the ignition on and the engine off and scan measuring blocks with the engine on as well. What you should now do is clear all of the codes to see which ones come back as there is no date/time reference to deduce when the code was logged.

The "No response from controller" message normally indicates that the controller isn't fitted, ie - you try and scan "19 - Navigation" when you don't have the factory navigation system, if you are getting it when trying to scan a controller you definitely have, "01 - Engine" for example, then there is problem.

fault code 01135 interoir monitoring sensors

The interior scanners for the alarm system have had a problem, reasonably common but nothing to worry about unless the alarm keeps going off

fault code 00532 supply voltage b+

Battery voltage has gone too low for the SRS system to function properly, normally caused by a flat battery - reset the code

fault code 01491 glowplug for heater (Q9)

VERY common, the glowplug in the auxillary heater has died at some point - clear it and if it comes back there is a how-to in the reference library for changing the plug.

fault code 01271 positioning motor for temp flap (V68)

The temperature regulator motor for the heating and ventilation system isn't responding, most probably a result of the low battery condition - clear the code and see if it comes back

fault code 00926 terminal 30

The same as 00532 but for the HVAC controller, the battery was flat - reset

fault code 01189 shareware version

Decodes as "01189 - Front Air Distribution Flap Motor (V145)", as above the motor failed to respond - clear it and see if it comes back

Were there no faults in the engine controller?
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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2012, 10:03:07 AM »
was suprised no engine faults came up, am checking them again today as computer had an attack and shut down yesterday.
Is there any faults that should be coming up that maybe are not showing?  :-\

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2012, 10:41:17 AM »
If your certain there's no faults stored for the engine then it may be wise to have a compression test done, an imbalance here would cause misfire and reduce power output.
Did this problem occur overnight or has it just got worse since the colder weather
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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2012, 02:37:14 PM »
not sure really when it started, when cold i would say once the engine has been run it doesn't happen. Even when cold there seams to be no loss of power just a slight, i don't know how to explain it really, a kind of miss fire but no violent shaking or noise like you get with a miss fire.
That's why i changed the glow plugs because 1 wasn't working and 1 chamber was inaffective in starting, so thought that was the problem, now don't have any idea :-[

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2012, 03:48:16 PM »
As the diagnostics hasn't thrown up any codes on the engine for injectors/wiring, misfires then a mechanical fault on the engine is more likely, on saying all that relay 109 has proved to give bad starting and erratic running so changing this inexpensive item first will rule this out as that also does not show up a fault code either.
If there's no improvement then have the compression checked to confirm it's not due to engine wear e.g piston rings valves etc
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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2012, 08:45:07 PM »
Hi I've just got back home and if it helps the engine behavior that i couldn't describe earlier, well I've got it. If it is any help, i was sat in traffic and i just caught the accelerator pedal, didn't squeeze it just tapped it only, and the engine revs increased and decreased very slightly, just like in the mornings when you first strike it up and the engine behaves like that. If any of this babble helps in anyway thank you  :-[

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2012, 08:03:42 PM »
hi just in reply to mirez,
I have cleared all the faults but not had time to check for a day or two,

fault code 01271 positioning motor for temp flap (V68) came back,

i had a brief look at the measuring blocks was just getting the hang of it but ran out of daylight :(
not had time to check to see if any more have come back yet.
since i have cleared the codes starting the engine seams to be abit easier battery has more kick to it, I'm still waiting for my relay 109 from vw not been delivered yet :(
I had a brief look at the measuring blocks and went through some of them, but to be honest they didn't mean alot to me :-[ if i finally work out how to put them in graph form can anybody have a look to see if there is anything unusual about them?
Your help and advice is most appreciated

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2012, 08:40:23 PM »
Well thats the flap motor not being able to move then and is now confirmed faulty. Remind me is the heating manual or automatic/climate on yours? I've heard of 01271 codes causing the fan speed to change wildly and even turn on from time to time on Golf's but its a much less common a fault on the Galaxy.

What blocks are you measuring? The idea is you can basically see the inputs the ECU's have from their sensors and also any calculations the ECU has made based on that. If you post them up I'll be happy to convert them to a graph and go through it with you, you might want to start another thread though to keep your two issues separate :)


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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2012, 10:20:14 PM »
the heating is manual, i will post the calculations in another post just as soon as i get them
again many thanks for all of your help

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2012, 04:28:58 PM »
I have replaced the 109 relay as said in another post erratic idling, grey/white smoke seams to have stopped :) :) now for the other problems!!!!!
cheers and many thanks for your advice

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2012, 02:02:44 PM »
Realised today that the problem has returned, but only when the engine is cold.
Arctic idling grey/white smoke appears, after reving slightly it stops. So confused now!!!
I have replaced relay 109, having battery changed soon as, because it drains over night, would that be part of the problem?

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2012, 08:46:55 AM »
If the battery is going flat then the ECU may be loosing its adapted map each time (running on a default ECU map) which will cause poor running, it could also be an injector fault
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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2012, 07:20:54 PM »
Hi i don't know if i should have started a new post or added this to battery replacement? if I'm wrong you will tell me.
As i said in the other post i have starting problems, so i followed your guide on how to check the glow plugs, i have changed them awhile ago but I'm at a loss. The readings i got back were between 1.0-1.2 on each plug.
When i vcds was plugged in i checked the measuring blocks for the glow plugs and the readings i got back were: 0101000 after the glow plug light went out, and they went to all 1111111 when the engine was struck up, pre glow stayed the same 0.00, is this normal?
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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2012, 10:45:46 AM »
hi all
I have this pesky problem return!
The erratic idle but only for a min or two, and when it's cold, when it's been run for a mile or less it don't happen. I have changed the 109 relay, battery, and now not sure what to do?
There is no loss of power it still flies like a rocket, well for a people carrier.
Idle on tick over when run for abit is fine, i know that my egr valve is spraying out oil and am in the process of changing this soon as my broken finger is fixed, i am up to 99500 miles now so i am going to have a look to see how messed up the manifold may be would this have any affect on the erratic idle in the mornings? also it seams to be using slightly more fuel than normal. I think this is all of the symptoms,
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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2012, 10:54:51 AM »
As it's running OK apart from the erratic cold idle I think I would take plugs out and test them with 12 volts, they should start to glow from the tip back, sometimes they can glow in the middle only but wont show as a fault.
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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2012, 10:59:20 AM »
cheers for that will check them later

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2012, 04:19:59 PM »
hi i seam to have no power running through the glow plug rail, when i take out a glow plug and put a wire where the glow plug sits, then attach it to the + on the battery then attach a wire to the - on the battery and touch the glow plug it lights up, (not sure if i should do this, but it worked) but when its done with the rail attached as normal nothing seams to work, inspected all the glow plugs and they are covered in soot only replaced then a short while ago. do i have a falty wire or fuse?

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2012, 04:21:50 PM »
sorry missed abit off when you turn the key the glow light goes out as normal, would this still do that even if there is no power to the glow rail?

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2012, 06:26:51 PM »
hi sorry just to add abit more, my dad has just told me that if the engine was slighty warm when i checked the glow plugs, which it was, that they might not have been needed so they wouldn't light up, i don't know i'm just putting that out there.
i have put a wire in the rail and connected up a bulb to see if any power comes through when you turn the key, but still no power, only when you connect a wire from the battery to the rail then you get power and the plugs or bulb light,

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2012, 12:33:21 PM »
If you have no power supply at glow plug connector bar, check out the auxiliary fuse box next to battery fuse 103 it's a 60amp bar fuse, also check fuse 34 in the main box inside car, the controlling relay is 103 in the third layer.
There are a couple of joints near the battery area there may be corrosion in a connector there, sorry can't be more precise as the wiring diagram is not that clear.
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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2012, 06:49:08 PM »
cheers for that my friend it gives me something to go on this weekend to try and find the problem, i have seen the box under the bonnet but was not sure which one i was looking for, thank you for the advice.

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Re: grey/white smoke out of exhaust when engine idling
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2012, 07:12:55 PM »
hi again,
once i find out where the problem lyes with the lack of power to the glow plugs (if i find it :(), and that doesn't change anything, I'm going to get a compression test done like you have said but, well this my may sound stupid, The problem only seams to be there when the engine is cold, when it's warm everything is fine, so what I'm asking is can i have valve or piston ring problems?
Even when i have erratic idle in the mornings, i can put my foot down and there is no loss of power, still pulls away very well and no different engine sound, or is this me just hoping i don't have a major problem? :o
One last thing!! would the coolant temp sensor have an affect if it's not working properly?  :-X right i think that's all i have to ask for now :-X thank you all for taking the time to look at all my babbling
« Last Edit: April 26, 2012, 07:21:50 PM by pabinlove »

 

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