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Author Topic: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower  (Read 11769 times)

Offline boxecutor

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MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« on: March 01, 2013, 07:48:49 AM »
I have just pruchased a V reg Galaxy ghia and the heater blower is not working.

It is not the model with the knobs for the heating and i have been told that apparently it is a relay that is faulty.

Any advice on this would be appreciated and even a price where i can get one from.

Many Thanks
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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2013, 12:03:15 PM »
hi mate, i also have the ghia mk1 so im guessing its digital climate control, if so does it even come on? i had issues where it would flash for a while before coming on and this needed a fault code clearing.
if it doesnt even come on i would check the fuses but might also be worth getting the lead and downloading the software to connect to a laptop etc. i have a few issues im trying to sort and seems to be that the fault codes help to get the right advice.

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 07:25:29 PM »
hiya. got the same issue with mine. mines v reg too lol. could be down to fuses/ relay 114 on the second layer of the fuse box under the steering wheel or the resistor pack{hedgehog} that is in the plastic air ducting behind the glove box.your looking for a red block with a multi plug wired into it.let us know if you solve the fault.  8)

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 07:18:34 AM »
Hiya both, yeah it is digital climate control and yes it comes on and flashes for 10 seconds or so then display stays on but heater blower wont blow on any setting.

what lead and software do i need to get to hook it up ?

will check the fuses/ relay ect as mentioned and hopefully that will solve it - will advise as soon as i played.

thanks for the replies
 

Offline Chrispb

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 08:14:16 AM »
Flashing display means a fault code has been stored

Check the link below for info on lead and software.

https://www.fordmpv.com/smf2/reference-library/ford-galaxy-software-solutions-(vag-com-vcds-vagtacho)/
2009 Kia Sedona GS In Black 2.9CRDI 183PS. 5 Speed Manual WAV.
2003 MK2 Galaxy Ghia In Solid Black 1.9 TDI 115PS. 5 Speed Automatic.

Upgraded Eberspächer booster heater  to independent heating with 7 day timer.

With VCDS lite (full version) need a code clearing or want to scan for faults in the north kent area, PM me.
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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2013, 04:18:31 PM »
Any ideas on relay 114 have looked at fuse box have got 149, 185, 411, 143 and 2 404 on second layer no others and no empty sockets for a relay that havent got one in on second layer.

Third layer has 2*100, 167, 30 and a couple of meaty fuses and that is all.

Cannot find 114 anywhere no a place where it lools like it should go.

Galaxy mk1 2.3ghia.

Cheers

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2013, 07:09:14 AM »
wondering if you have over looked relay 114 on the second layer..............  i did this as it is installed sideways so the writing aint easily readable. saying that yours is a 2.3 im assuming petrol? so they may be another fuse box under the bonnet  with it in depending on what factory extras are on your car. ;) was the heater working when you bought the car or was it knackard like mine when you got it?  :-\ another fault that can stop the fan working is the brushes in the motor worn out or a partialy siezed/seized motor. id check the motor to see if its at fault. i took mine out and put 12 volts from a car battery direct to it to see if it powered up.hold the back of the motor very tight and watch you fingers coz if it is working it spins very fast lol. doesnt make any difference which way you wire the motor up to 12 volts. if you get the wiring wrong......... live to earth the motor will spin backwards but wont hurt it. hope this helps  :D let us know if it cures it. 8)   

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2013, 09:37:56 AM »
Well have tested hedgehog resistor and blower motor and both are OK.

Still cannot find the elusive 114 relay though have checked and double checked but it is no where to be found in the fuse box at any level 1st,2nd or 3rd. So some help on locating it would be good have listed above on earlier post what relays I have.

Becoming frustrated looking for 114. Lol

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2013, 09:04:05 PM »
Well further update.....  went to dealer today and 114 relay should be relay 15 on second level. On checking mine have no relay there nor is it that it should be there and has been removed. Haven't got the auxiliary fuse box under the bonnet either so am totally at a loss as to where the mysterious 114 relay has gone.

Any help would be appreciated as am getting to a point where I now am going to have to pay to put it in a garage to get it done. :(

Cheers

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2013, 11:15:11 PM »
The 114 relay is shown in the vw manual for some models so you are probably looking for something that's not fitted to your model can you go to your blower and check the two connectors.
Remove connections from motor.
Do you have 12 volts to one lead when ignition is on or is it dead.
2009 Kia Sedona GS In Black 2.9CRDI 183PS. 5 Speed Manual WAV.
2003 MK2 Galaxy Ghia In Solid Black 1.9 TDI 115PS. 5 Speed Automatic.

Upgraded Eberspächer booster heater  to independent heating with 7 day timer.

With VCDS lite (full version) need a code clearing or want to scan for faults in the north kent area, PM me.
All for a pint of Strongbow.

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2013, 02:56:58 PM »
Have checked and completely dead at connections for heater motor when ignition on.

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2013, 03:39:25 PM »
my climate control unit is this one:-

part number 95VW-19988-EFW


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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2013, 08:36:25 PM »
ny advice please on where i can find the 114 relay when it is not in the back of the fuse box.

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2013, 09:30:44 PM »
Your looking for the Relay marked K124 in this diagram:

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2013, 11:00:13 PM »
The diagram of the layout shows K 124 in position 4 & 19 early and late models respectively so your relay should be in the forth row right hand side.
The fuse supply is fuse 22 30amp for front blower and fuse 21 25amp for the rear, check these fuses are live.
2009 Kia Sedona GS In Black 2.9CRDI 183PS. 5 Speed Manual WAV.
2003 MK2 Galaxy Ghia In Solid Black 1.9 TDI 115PS. 5 Speed Automatic.

Upgraded Eberspächer booster heater  to independent heating with 7 day timer.

With VCDS lite (full version) need a code clearing or want to scan for faults in the north kent area, PM me.
All for a pint of Strongbow.

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2013, 01:30:47 PM »
Ok many thanks both for that info. And yes position 4 is blank. Position 19 has a relay in but it is marked 185 which I believe is ignition would this relay still be the cause as everything else is working ok just no blowers.

Also have checked the fuses and are ok but will check they got a live feed which I forgot to check like a muppet.

Thanks for the help most appreciated.

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2013, 06:29:51 PM »
Relay 185 is the immobiliser relay
2009 Kia Sedona GS In Black 2.9CRDI 183PS. 5 Speed Manual WAV.
2003 MK2 Galaxy Ghia In Solid Black 1.9 TDI 115PS. 5 Speed Automatic.

Upgraded Eberspächer booster heater  to independent heating with 7 day timer.

With VCDS lite (full version) need a code clearing or want to scan for faults in the north kent area, PM me.
All for a pint of Strongbow.

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2013, 08:31:37 PM »
We should compose a list of the production numbers on the relays, Chris can you let me have a list of the ones you know?
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With cream leather interior, Full Bodykit, Remapped at 145bhp, Lowered on 18's
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With retrofitted everything except another slidey door! :)

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2013, 07:08:25 AM »
so i assume that means that relay wont be anything to do with the heater blower.

mythed still and think gonna have to put it in the garage.

cheers for the help all.

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2013, 02:32:13 PM »
If possible could you post some clear pics of your relays and the empty sockets.
2009 Kia Sedona GS In Black 2.9CRDI 183PS. 5 Speed Manual WAV.
2003 MK2 Galaxy Ghia In Solid Black 1.9 TDI 115PS. 5 Speed Automatic.

Upgraded Eberspächer booster heater  to independent heating with 7 day timer.

With VCDS lite (full version) need a code clearing or want to scan for faults in the north kent area, PM me.
All for a pint of Strongbow.

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2013, 03:54:26 PM »
Havent managed to get time yet to do the pics but will once i get time to do it.

In meantime have managed to code read and this is what i have got back

Sunday, 24 March 2013, 14:31:48.

VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2

Control Module Part Number: 7M0 907 040 BG

  Component and/or Version: CLIMATRONIC MPV    V112

           Software Coding: 00014

            Work Shop Code: WSC 00020

                      VCID: 719556C728B1

2 Faults Found:

01273 -  Fresh Air Blower (V2)

        35-00 -   -

01185 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs

        35-00 - Please Register/Activate

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any help on this please or does this indicate that it is the 114 relay which i have yet to find.

Cheers

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Re: MK1 Ghia - no heater blower
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2013, 07:18:29 PM »
just a daft thought but im wondering if someone at some point in the cars life has fitted a relay from a vw sharan/seat alhambra as the relays that control the heater blower are a different part number/code.......... dont have 114 stamped on them. :)from what ive heard the vw/seat relay are cheaper from the dealership than from ford and do the same job. just a idea. 8)

 

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