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Parking kit eberspacher
« on: January 08, 2018, 07:07:36 PM »
Hi. I have bought the parking kit from eberspacher. Does anyone have english manual? Or someone who done this before?

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2018, 08:24:07 PM »
Have you bought the 'aftermarket' kit or the proper VAG version that fits into the headlining? The aftermarket kit comes with its own little timer that you have to fit somewhere else whilst the VAG version is obviously OEM looking.

I've fitted the VAG version to mine so if its this one, I'll help with any q's
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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2018, 09:17:40 PM »
Have you bought the 'aftermarket' kit or the proper VAG version that fits into the headlining? The aftermarket kit comes with its own little timer that you have to fit somewhere else whilst the VAG version is obviously OEM looking.

I've fitted the VAG version to mine so if its this one, I'll help with any q's
i'll have the Vag version.

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2018, 10:56:42 PM »
I fitted the Eberspächer upgrade kit a few years ago, if it's a genuine Eberspächer kit it was never printed in English although the mini timer instructions are in English.
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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 08:01:42 AM »
I fitted the Eberspächer upgrade kit a few years ago, if it's a genuine Eberspächer kit it was never printed in English although the mini timer instructions are in English.
did you have the adapter cables for the kit. and what are they for really?
this is how i understood the kit installing.
1. start from the eberspacher and mount the cable,
2. connect it to the battery.
3 get the cables in the car.
4. connect it to the car.
5. connect the mini clock.

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 10:22:53 AM »
The control module has cables permanently attached this is mounted under the car just forward from the heater, this should have the two 8 pin plugs, supply +ve, timer, water pump and blower cables.
There should also be two change over relays to run the water pump and blower motor and a fuse box I had to purchase these myself as they were not in the kit.
You also have to remove a wire and add another to the climate control module.
Also the alarm internal sensors have to be disabled when heater is running independently and car is locked.
Let me know if you need further help. 
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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2018, 05:44:52 PM »
The control module has cables permanently attached this is mounted under the car just forward from the heater, this should have the two 8 pin plugs, supply +ve, timer, water pump and blower cables.
There should also be two change over relays to run the water pump and blower motor and a fuse box I had to purchase these myself as they were not in the kit.
You also have to remove a wire and add another to the climate control module.
Also the alarm internal sensors have to be disabled when heater is running independently and car is locked.
Let me know if you need further help.
I have now fitted the kit. But there are two adapter cables in the kit. Should i use those ? And the only thing that dont work now is the eberspacher. Is there something i could have forgotten. There is one small cable that is blue and yellow. Should i use it ?

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2018, 06:50:32 PM »
I have now fitted the kit. But there are two adapter cables in the kit. Should i use those ? And the only thing that dont work now is the eberspacher. Is there something i could have forgotten. There is one small cable that is blue and yellow. Should i use it ?

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2018, 01:51:49 PM »
You should only need to use the adaptor cables if the plugs are different so you only need to use them if you cannot directly plug in to your heater and the cars socket.

Is the blue and yellow cable connected to anything or is it just a length of cable?
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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2018, 05:06:11 PM »
You should only need to use the adaptor cables if the plugs are different so you only need to use them if you cannot directly plug in to your heater and the cars socket.

Is the blue and yellow cable connected to anything or is it just a length of cable?
Just a length of cable. But it works now when i am driving but i cant access the aux heater in rosstech program. And it still doesnt work when i push the buttons

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2018, 04:21:15 AM »
Did your kit have the remote controlled timer/display or the mini 7 day timer?
does the climate control display change when you try to operate the heater?
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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2018, 03:22:33 PM »
Did your kit have the remote controlled timer/display or the mini 7 day timer?
does the climate control display change when you try to operate the heater?
I have the mini uhr and no i doesnt. But the eberspacher is working and then turning off. Is it necessary to remove the pin from internal control  on the green pin?


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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2018, 07:38:38 PM »
The connection to the green plug is for disabling the alarm when the car is locked.
Can you show me a diagram/plan of the connections you have made that shows the change over relays, water pump, blower motor, climate control, mini urh.
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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2018, 06:19:17 AM »
The connection to the green plug is for disabling the alarm when the car is locked.
Can you show me a diagram/plan of the connections you have made that shows the change over relays, water pump, blower motor, climate control, mini urh.
This is the diagram.

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2018, 06:54:43 AM »
This is the diagram.

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The fan in the car is only blowing cold even when the car has just been on and the eberspacher is warm. Why is that. And how should i test the waterpump to check if its working. And i cant go in via obd contact and check the eber now when i have mounted the kit ..

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2018, 04:09:45 PM »
The water pump you can hear it humming and by holding it you should feel vibration.

The Eberspächer will not run correctly if the pump is not working.

With the kit correctly installed and the heater initiated by the mini urh you will hear the heater combustion fan spin up briefly, the water pump will run and the blower fan will run, after about 15 to 30 seconds you should hear the dosing pump start to tick followed by the combustion fan slowly increasing speed until it gets to full speed, this takes about a minute.

In the first picture below is a view of the mini urh after initial pressing the power button then the OK button, notice the heat symbol displayed in the bottom left.

In the second picture you will see how the climatronic display has changed indicating the Eberspächer is working independently.

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2018, 04:19:32 PM »
The water pump you can hear it humming and by holding it you should feel vibration.

The Eberspächer will not run correctly if the pump is not working.

With the kit correctly installed and the heater initiated by the mini urh you will hear the heater combustion fan spin up briefly, the water pump will run and the blower fan will run, after about 15 to 30 seconds you should hear the dosing pump start to tick followed by the combustion fan slowly increasing speed until it gets to full speed, this takes about a minute.

In the first picture below is a view of the mini urh after initial pressing the power button then the OK button, notice the heat symbol displayed in the bottom left.

In the second picture you will see how the climatronic display has changed indicating the Eberspächer is working independently.

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Thanks for the help. I think there must be something wrong with the pump. This is whats happening.
1. I start the aux by pressing the button on the mini uhr.
2. The aux is starting.
3. After 30 seconds it wont work.
4. Its just the blowing fan thats go. And the only thing in the display showing is the letters. Not the other sign. And even if the car is warm and im starting the heater it still will only blow cold air :(

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2018, 04:21:36 PM »
Thanks for the help. I think there must be something wrong with the pump. This is whats happening.
1. I start the aux by pressing the button on the mini uhr.
2. The aux is starting.
3. After 30 seconds it wont work.
4. Its just the blowing fan thats go. And the only thing in the display showing is the letters. Not the other sign. And even if the car is warm and im starting the heater it still will only blow cold air :(

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2018, 08:44:56 AM »
You say the heater runs normally when starting the engine? does the heater run continuously when engine is warming up, or does it shutdown and restart several times? have you ever had any overheat codes that have caused the heater to lock out? 4 or 5 simultaneous overheats will cause a lock out and these codes would need to be cleared before the heater will attempt to restart.

If you have not had any of the above it's a good chance the pump is working unfortunately the pump is dumb and has no connection to the cars diagnostic system so you will need to check this out yourself.

If the pump is running when starting engine but not when using the mini urh then you need to recheck your wiring connections and pump relay are correct.
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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2018, 08:59:35 AM »
You say the heater runs normally when starting the engine? does the heater run continuously when engine is warming up, or does it shutdown and restart several times? have you ever had any overheat codes that have caused the heater to lock out? 4 or 5 simultaneous overheats will cause a lock out and these codes would need to be cleared before the heater will attempt to restart.

If you have not had any of the above it's a good chance the pump is working unfortunately the pump is dumb and has no connection to the cars diagnostic system so you will need to check this out yourself.

If the pump is running when starting engine but not when using the mini urh then you need to recheck your wiring connections and pump relay are correct.
Maybe its working.. but what other reason is there ?

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2018, 10:28:46 AM »
Maybe its working.. but what other reason is there ?

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But what other reason is there it doesnt work. I cant access the aux heater in diagnostic when its on adapter parking kit. Why is that? I have measured the relay and the power is working and correctly functional. But the heater is on only 30 sec before it turns itself off.

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2018, 11:06:59 AM »
Does the mini urh stay lit up and still showing the heat symbol after the 30 seconds when it shuts down.

Sorry about all the questions, it's not a problem I've encountered since I installed my kit (12 years + now)
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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2018, 11:15:14 AM »
Does the mini urh stay lit up and still showing the heat symbol after the 30 seconds when it shuts down.

Sorry about all the questions, it's not a problem I've encountered since I installed my kit (12 years + now)
It show the symbol for heating all the time.

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2018, 11:57:24 AM »
I don't know what else to suggest! It's a shame the instructions are not in English as it does make the job harder.

You said your climatronic display only shows (HE) and not the body shape as in my photo, are you 100% positive you have the right connections on the back of the climatronic control as per the wiring diagram noting the original wire to the blue plug pin 18 is cut and isolated and a new cable into the red plug pin 20

Same with the water pump the original feed to the pump is cut and goes to the water pump relay.

Another point, did your fan relay and water pump relay come with your kit or did you get them after.

If your wiring and connections are OK perhaps there's a fault with the upgrade control relay!!
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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2018, 12:11:10 PM »
I don't know what else to suggest! It's a shame the instructions are not in English as it does make the job harder.

You said your climatronic display only shows (HE) and not the body shape as in my photo, are you 100% positive you have the right connections on the back of the climatronic control as per the wiring diagram noting the original wire to the blue plug pin 18 is cut and isolated and a new cable into the red plug pin 20

Same with the water pump the original feed to the pump is cut and goes to the water pump relay.

Another point, did your fan relay and water pump relay come with your kit or did you get them after.

If your wiring and connections are OK perhaps there's a fault with the upgrade control relay!!
Blue. I have cutted the red/white.

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2018, 03:23:23 PM »
Blue. I have cutted the red/white.

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As i see all the connection i have made is correct. But has the climate has to be on full effect before the warmer works ? What can i do to search for errors and where do i start ?

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2018, 05:24:49 PM »
Ours is usually on 22 degrees AUTO it can take about 15 minutes before it starts to blow warm in the car.

Where did you get the kit from? can they give any help.

Eberspächer are not very helpful when you say the heater is an OEM in a Ford they will say contact your dealer
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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2018, 05:55:03 AM »
Ours is usually on 22 degrees AUTO it can take about 15 minutes before it starts to blow warm in the car.

Where did you get the kit from? can they give any help.

Eberspächer are not very helpful when you say the heater is an OEM in a Ford they will say contact your dealer
Ok. I will check it out. Is an oem kit from eberspacher. Can you diagnost the car and is it still from 18 aux heater?

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2018, 07:42:07 AM »
Yes I can and have always been able to connect to number 18

What error message do you get when trying to connect.
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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2018, 07:43:51 AM »
Yes I can and have always been able to connect to number 18

What error message do you get when trying to connect.
It doesnt work. . Says that its not there

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« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2018, 10:26:43 AM »
The heater multiplug has the diagnostic lead in pin 5 only pin 8 should be empty

It may be an idea to test the continuity of the multiplugs
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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2018, 02:45:06 PM »
How does the circulation pump work ? Is it just simple 12v ?

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« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2018, 09:58:13 PM »
12 volts yes, the pump runs continuously all the time the engine is running regardless of the heating system.
When turning the engine off the pump continues to run for 3 minutes (115 AUY) on 130s the pump stops when engine stops.
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12 volts yes, the pump runs continuously all the time the engine is running regardless of the heating system.
When turning the engine off the pump continues to run for 3 minutes (115 AUY) on 130s the pump stops when engine stops.
Tnx for answer think i found my problem


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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2018, 10:29:28 PM »
Tnx for answer think i found my problem


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The problem was the circulation pump. So if anyone else struggles with the heater turning on and then off after a half minute this should be checked first. The brushes was gone in the circulation pump.

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« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2018, 08:53:40 AM »
The problem was the circulation pump. So if anyone else struggles with the heater turning on and then off after a half minute this should be checked first. The brushes was gone in the circulation pump.

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But the internal alarm still goes off. And pin 13 isnt there in the green plug. What to do?

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Re: Parking kit eberspacher
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2018, 12:39:18 PM »
You need to run a cable from the blower fan relay terminal 86 and connect to the green socket slot/pin 13.
This will deactivate the motion sensors when the car is locked and the heater is running.

I think we were under the impression that the heater was working correctly before you started fitting your kit, you should have had overheat fault codes stored on your car?  are you still able to connect to Module 18 with VCDS to see if any were stored?

The engines water pump is not powerful enough to circulate through both heater matrix's and the Eberspächer
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