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Author Topic: Relay 30 problem with a twist!  (Read 8264 times)

Offline McElviss

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Relay 30 problem with a twist!
« on: December 14, 2014, 05:00:51 PM »
Hi, the twist is that I have changed the relay on my 2002 Galaxy 2.3 Zetec, and it didn't cure the problem. All the classic symptoms, and it starts eventually.

So I took the new relay out, took the cover off and re-soldered all the legs on the PCB, and it looked like this had cured the problem, only for it to start again.

Any ideas? I'm looking for a wiring diagram so I can look at all the individual wires in that circuit and see if I have another iffy connection somewhere.

Any advice on the wiring, or a description of what that relay actually does/enable etc would be brilliant to help me find the problem.

Cheers!

Offline Mirez

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Re: Relay 30 problem with a twist!
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2014, 05:28:06 PM »
Welcome! You should change your profile, a 2002 is a Mk2 not a Mk1 ;)

Wiring diagram as here for manufacture date 05/2002
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Wiring diagram as here for BEFORE 05/2002
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Offline McElviss

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Re: Relay 30 problem with a twist!
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2014, 05:33:04 PM »
Thanks. I'm struggling to see Relay 30 in that diagram? Is it labelled something else?

Although it has all the symptoms of a Relay 30 issue, could it be something else?

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Re: Relay 30 problem with a twist!
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2014, 05:45:58 PM »
I've just 'printed' that section off as a PDF for the other starting thread that's running at the moment:
https://www.fordmpv.com/smf2/ford-galaxy/galaxy-mk2-1-9tdi-ghia-130-electrical-starting-problems/
so it might be more useful to you to view the PDF rather then the images.

Those are Ford wiring diagrams so you don't get the VW quick reference numbers but I believe relay 30 is Fords K191 relay. - Hopefully someone else can confirm that but from what I can see its the only relay in the circuit.

Do you know your manufacture date? If not head to: https://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleRegSelector.do
pop your reg in and it'll tell you
03 Ford Galaxy 1.9 TDI 115 Ghia in Spruce Green Metallic
With cream leather interior, Full Bodykit, Remapped at 145bhp, Lowered on 18's
14 VW Tiguan 2.0 TDI 177 AWD R-Line in Deep Black Pearl
With panoramic sunroof, bi-xenon headlights remapped at 205bhp.
08 Ford Transit 2.2 TDI 115 in Frozen White
With retrofitted everything except another slidey door! :)

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Offline insanitybeard

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Re: Relay 30 problem with a twist!
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2014, 10:46:44 PM »
Have you renewed/checked the fuel pump relay as well as relay 30? (number 167, ref. the posts towards the end of this thread) I believe this can also cause starting issues on the 2.3 petrols.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2014, 10:49:53 PM by insanitybeard »
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Offline niall1001

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Re: Relay 30 problem with a twist!
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2014, 11:25:35 PM »
check the aux fuse box and terminals in the engine bay,been having a similar problem but have now replaced the 2 main terminals and looks like its cured my issues

Offline Chrispb

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Re: Relay 30 problem with a twist!
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2014, 05:07:25 AM »
Relay 30 = K108 Fuel injection power relay in the diagram below, have also added the diagram for the fuel pump relay 167 = K4

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