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Author Topic: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches  (Read 21954 times)

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Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« on: April 19, 2012, 09:06:47 PM »
This one is probably more for Mirez, would like to fit the stereo remote switches into the steering wheel, but would like to know can the switches be retrofitted to a standard steering wheel or is it a case of fitting a new steering wheel, I have read somewhere that Mirez has done this, but am curious as what wiring was used, the VW wiring or Ford specific?

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2012, 09:51:55 PM »
Hi and welcome to the forum! Who told you that then? :)

Yes the Multifunction steering wheel (MFSW) was actually the last mod that I did, and I must say its awesome! :) You will need a fair few parts though and the wiring is self-wired, I'm not aware you can buy any "kit".

The switches CAN be fitted to the existing airbag and steering wheel, you'll need to take a craft knife to the existing wheel to cut out the section for the switches but that's the only differences between the wheels, hence it can be easily modded to fit. There are some airbag/switch sets brand new on ebay at the moment though. You'll also need a new indicator stalk without cruise, these are really easy to find and golf, bora and passat ones are the same so you can pick that up for under a tenner.

Now we move onto the harder parts to find - The first is the contact ring (slip ring, clock spring whatever you want to call it!) - these are hard to find as they are unique to the Galaxy with the MFSW, they do appear on ebay from time to time and the plus is because they are unique they aren't sought after so go reasonably cheaply. Finally the hardest part to source, the MFSW controller... not seen one of these on ebay in 12 months and I ended up buying mine new just to get the job done. This again is unique to the Galaxy with MFSW and since the MFSW has an onboard processor which talks its own language the MFSW controllers from VW/Audi wont work with it :(

Wiring wise as I said you need to make your own loom up, there is nothing too complicated here and I'll guide you in how and what to wire up but it'll take a while to write all that up so I'll let you source all the parts first and then we'll talk some more :)
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 07:25:42 PM »
Well have started sorcing the parts for this little nightmare!! 8),But before I get carried away have to ask, is it possible to use the VAG MFSW and controller(as you can buy the VAG wiring and associated parts seperately) , or do they have to be Ford specific due to differences in the radio setups between VAG and Ford?VAG parts seem to be easier to source than the Ford parts.

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2012, 10:04:42 PM »
You can't use the VAG switches or controller with the galaxy wheel, you can however replace the steering wheel & airbag with a sharan/alhambra or golf/passat one and then use the VW MFSW controller. Of course you'll then have a VW/SEAT branded airbag which will IMO look pretty stupid sat in a Ford.
It won't talk to the Ford radios though so you'll need to replace that as well, either with the MFD Nav unit or a VAG stereo - I'm not sure but I suspect it won't be able to connect to a MFD thats branded as Ford either.

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2012, 06:20:12 AM »
Cheers Mirez,
Yeah I do agree with you about the airbag, but was just curious and wanted someone else to confirm that the VW controller wont speak to the radio due to differences between manufacturers(not that it matters as there's a double din JVC in), the other reason for asking was the controller & slip ring will have to come from Ford, as you know they are not cheap, still the parts will be ordered some time this week, will post again when all parts have been sourced

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2012, 12:17:37 PM »
Dont say I'm not good to you :)

Slip ring:
Ebay Link

Switch Pack: (Offer them 125 and they should accept! )
Ebat Link

The controller you'll still need to find though, I've got the Ford part number if you need it.
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2012, 04:41:37 PM »
Mirez,
you are a star! I've spent the last couple of days looking for a slip ring(didn't think to try contact switch ::)) the switch pack has been ordered 110 and I got it! Just gotta order the controller now :o! and pick up the switch pack!!

Cheers mate!! ;)

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2012, 06:17:38 PM »
Okay,
Quick update all parts sourced and ordered,and most have turned up,

The Airbag turned up today, just happened to be the one with no cruise control fitted!
The controller has been ordered just gotta wait for Ford Germany to pull their finger out
Slip ring should be here 2morrow.
So hopefully can start fitting all this in the next couple of weeks when am next off for a couple of days,

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2012, 06:57:49 PM »
Awesome! That controllers not cheap eh! Think mine was 140 and that was with a big discount :(

Fittings quite easy, have you ordered a relay base for the controller or just going to use crimp spade terminals? I tried to get the base and proper repair wires but you can't order the right one from VW, you have to go to Audi and they can't match to VW so it became a hit/miss affair and I used crimp spades and manufactured my own base in the end with hot glue :) Sounds a bit heath-robinson but it worked really well!
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2012, 08:25:56 PM »
How the hell did you get it that cheap!! ??? I work for FORD and the best price I got with a discount was 175! still waiting for it to arrive from germany when ordered it got refered so we'll see how long it takes them to find it. As for mounting I assumed that it fitted in the same place as the VW controller(under the bottom coloumn shroud, so I take it it mounts somewhere else then?Just gotta decide now wether to keep this airbag or get 'em to supply the right one according to their part number :P

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2012, 08:39:57 PM »
WORK FOR FORD EH?

that could be benifical for the forum   ;) ;)

mmmm wonder if you can get a list of tsb's for the galaxy/smax range?????  8)
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2012, 08:47:08 PM »
Yes and Yes! ;D But can only get the TSB when i'm in work, as for the S-MAX someone would have to volunteer their number plate as it makes it easier to track down the TSB's specific to that model

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2012, 09:45:37 PM »
Cheap? It was still friggin expensive! Ordered mine from a dealer friend in Germany, it was only the exchange rate at the time that made it cheaper :)

Annoyingly it was refered for me as well and took 3 weeks to arrive :( Fancy pricing up the factory body kit for me? Cheapest I can get that is just under 900!!
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2012, 09:48:48 PM »
Got the part numbers for it? I'll price it for you no problem

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2012, 09:54:18 PM »
Thanks!

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2012, 05:28:24 PM »
Update!
Miracles do happen :o! (if you cross ya fingers, toes and anything else you can cross, lol)
The Controller has arrived, all parts aquired and are now ready for fitting!
Mirez any chance you could let me know what wiring is needed for the home made loom,
Thanks

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2012, 09:12:13 PM »
Awesome, yes I can do you the wiring bits and bobs tomorrow. Does your car have cruise?
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2012, 08:08:42 AM »
Cheers Mirez,
Yeah the car has cruise the switch pack doesn't have the cruise fitted to it, not sure wether to try and get them to replace with correct part going by their part numbers or just fit the switch pack that I have, any thoughts on that one.

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2012, 08:43:12 AM »
Entirely up to you, the controller you bought is capable of controlling the cruise circuit though, it won't make that much difference either way though so its up to you but personally I'd want all the buttons :D
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2012, 09:58:11 AM »
After a fair bit of e-mailing and checking part numbers they have apparently shipped the switch pack with the cruise control fitted, would prefer that one anyway, so will have to wait and see if it's the correct switch pack should be here today with a bit of luck! Will keep ya posted.

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2012, 07:57:33 PM »
Well these are the notes I made as I installed mine, if there's anything you don't understand or want to clarify then let me know and I'll try and remember ;D

Some of the suggestions are just my ramblings and are not specifically where the connection should be made however this IS from my green check sheet (I know I'm sad lol) so this is whats installed and where in my car:

C607: Left side of MFSW Controller C608: Right side of MFSW Controller
1= N/C
2= ACPH Audio Controls to Pin 1 C413
3 = N/C
4 = Cruise Canbus > Pin 4 on M546
5= MFL RFB Audio Controls to Yellow/Red Pin 11 C67 (Mini Green on Nav)
6= Diagnostics In K line
7= ACPL Audio Controls to Pin2 C413
8= Cruise SET > Reroute from Pin 3 C263
9= Horn Relay Ground to Make (Reroute Pin3 from C81 Airbag connector)
10= Ground
11=N/C
12= Supply > Spur from Pin6 C263
13= Memory Supply > Fed from F32 > Instrument Cluster Red wire on Pin23 from C170 (Blue)
14 = Cruise Cancel > Reroute from Pin5 C263
15 = Illumination Supply > Fed from Green Wire on Pin 20 from C170 (Blue)
16 = Cruise Resume > Reroute from Pin2 C607
17= N/C
18= Horn On > Ground loop from Pin1 C546


C546: MFSW@Clockspring
Green1= Horn On Into Pin 9 of C607
Black2= Ground
Purple3= Supply From Pin6 of C263
Red4= Cruise CANBUS > Pin 4 of C608
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2012, 09:53:58 PM »
Cheers Mark!
Will have a look through this and will probably be back in touch! LOL
Just waiting for new switch pack to arrive hopefully be here 2morrow, fitting will now have to be put off until I'm next off for a couple of days! Still can get on with the wiring now!
Hopefully when I do this will try and remember to take photos as I go along a maybe make a how to out of it?

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2012, 09:56:44 PM »
That would be awesome mate thanks!
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2012, 08:11:12 PM »
Mark! HELP!!
Having a spot of bother tracking down M546, have been trawling through wiring diagrams (but the hamster has now fallen off the wheel dazed and confused)I know roughly where it's supposed to be(FORD being really helpful have it listed as dash panel centre when you try connector location) but don't remember seeing a square green plug? Am I missing something here? would be great if you can remember roughly where it is(only the Hamster in my head a taken a bit of a pasting this week and can't cope anymore!)

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2012, 09:42:42 AM »
humm away this weekend mate so don' have access to any of the notes. I seem to remember a discrepancy with connector description with oneof them so it could be that. The cruise system is dealt with by the small black connector you remove from the back of the left stalk but i don' think that's the one, wil have to look it up sunday night for you.
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2012, 01:15:26 PM »
Mirez,
sorry to be a pain but, when you make the connections from the feeds/connections are you re-routing the cable i.e removing the existing cable and soldering/crimping to new location, or did you join new length of cable from existing location to the controller?
Hope thats clear,
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2012, 03:42:35 PM »
Right C546, is the connector at the clock spring unit.

Some are rerouted, some are spliced it depends on which section your doing. Since the cruise is being moved then they will be re-routed. The supplies and grounds up by the cluster will be spliced and the horn is also rerouted.
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2012, 04:49:12 PM »
Cheers Mirez,
They other one I can't find is C67 and M546 or is M546 the cruise control wiring plug at the stalk, just trying to get this straight so I know roughly where to look, hopefully start this next week, think I've got the rest located, hopefully it's just these last two.

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2012, 05:18:50 PM »
M is a C - sorry my typo. As above, its the one going to the clock spring unit.

C67 is the mini plug on the back of the MFD, if you don't have the nav unit then it'll be into the yellow plug of the ford radio.
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2012, 07:44:19 PM »
Well thats why I couldn't find it then!
My fingers can't spell either! ;D Hopefully thats it now I know where the connectors are will crack on with it next week and hopefully remember to take photos as I go along (hopefully!)
Mirez will cobble it together and pass it on to you if thats allright and hopefully make the how to from it? If thats allright with you ?

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2012, 07:49:29 PM »
Yeah by all means :)

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2012, 08:15:58 PM »
Thanks!
I think I might need it!
One last one could you take the memory supply and the illumination from the radio wiring?

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2012, 08:27:16 PM »
Yeah if you prefer, its all down there I just put the control module up near the cluster so it was easier for me. Just make sure your supply doesn't drop out during cranking - no huge problem if it does but you'll log a fault code every time.
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2012, 08:52:27 PM »
Cheers Mark!
Does the control module need programming?

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2012, 09:46:30 PM »
Yes! Soft coding only though :)
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2012, 09:15:48 PM »
Okay quick update,
started stripping car ready to fit new switch pack,just a question about the switch gear(steering column indicator stalk)do the switches come apart as the new indicator stalk I got has only got a plastic ring? As for the DLC is that a new connection to pin7 or splicing into it?
Mirez there will be a load of photo's coming your way hopefully tomorrow should be complete by then. I remembered the camera! 8) so if anyone else fancies doing this we will hopefully have step by step instructions! 8)

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2012, 08:35:17 AM »
Yup the stalks can be separated, there are two plastic lugs to depress (inside the ring iirc) and then they side apart.

DLC wire can be taken to any of the K-Line circuits around the car and just splices in, again its a canbus style communication.

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2012, 09:32:18 AM »
Cheers Mark,
Switches are the next thing to be removed and then onto the wiring,so far so good,hopefully get this done before midday today, as I need the car for the weekend, so here's hoping, will keep you informed, and hopefully e-mail the photos to you later.
Thanks for the help, will probably be back in touch hopefully to say it's finished! 8)

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2012, 09:15:05 PM »
sounds good m8,looking forward to the pics.
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2012, 09:14:28 AM »
Okay update,
Things have not gone according to plan,
No real problems with the wiring all done, cables moved to right locations(I think), powered car back up, and Hey pesto! I have illuminated steering wheel controls! WOOOH HOOOO! I was thinking, coded the module, and from here on in everything goes tits up! No horn, no cruise control, buttons have no effect whatsoever, air bag failure now being displayed on MFD, and to top it all off no farking audio controls! Apart from that no problem!
Now stuck in work all weekend, so wont have a chance to re-check all wiring connections to the module!
Bloody work!

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2012, 10:56:46 AM »
Ahh crap, did you drive the car after coding it and what code did you use?

The horn, illumination and audio controls are all part of that canbus circuit, the airbag's on its own and the cruise on/off is also on its own.

If the on/off's not working for the cruise then that takes it away from the coding or the module but the airbag circuit stands out for me as you shouldn't have touched anything with that wiring so for it to throw a wobbler seems weird. The obvious thing that springs to mind is that the clock spring wasn't centred when you put the wheel back on and subsequently its ripped when you've turned the wheel? Did you follow the refitting section at the bottom of the removal post?
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2012, 11:51:12 AM »
Yeap! Followed Fords method for resetting the clock spring too, the Horn and Airbag warning might be because I forgot to replace Pin3 on C81! ::) So will chuck that back in tonight and see what happens, with my luck at the mo the Airbag will probably deploy ??? The weird part is the illumination is working, soft coding was done with a Ford VCM but then came back with a no communication, checked later with VAGCOM and got the soft coding from the module 01028 but dont understand why it's coded it with that when I dont have Nav fitted?

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2012, 06:10:40 AM »
Right here we go!
Checked the wiring to the controller last night,
All feeds are correct and working, all grounds are correct, but before doing all that did notice that the steering wheel no longer illuminates, put car back on diagnostics selected the MFSW no outputs from switches being detected by VCM, only DTC stored in car is the no comm's with the MFSW controller, am beginning to think the controller may be shot.
Any thoughts from anyone? or suggestions as to what to try next, at the mo refitted the original switch pack and now at least have a horn, but airbag light still persists, maybe because the controller is still wired including the ground from Pin3 C81, could that be dragging down the airbag circuit if the controller is knackered?Will remove controller on Monday and return to dealer for a replacement.

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2012, 05:53:54 PM »
That smacks of clock spring unit being defective instead. If the controller was shot its unlikely you'd get comms to it.

Horn is a ground loop through the CS unit
Airbag is 100% separate through the CS unit
Cruise On/Off is separate
Illumination, audio and cruise switches are all single wire to the controller inside the switch pack - again through the CS unit.

Since your MFSW controller is saying it can't see the controller inside the switch pack then that's the most likely culprit. Remove it from the car and test it with a multimeter.
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2012, 07:58:38 PM »
Clock spring is fine all connections bell out with a multi meter,Funnily enough that's exactly what I did this afternoon,am off for the next week or so,first job tomorrow will be to pull the controller,re-check the wiring connections, check the feeds to the MFSW to make sure that has got a feed, will then re-connect to the VCM and try the module check to see if the switches are actually giving an output, when tested very quickly yesterday none of the switches were giving any fed back to the VCM, maybe something really stupid like I have missed the feed to MFSW, cos thats the only thing I can think of as the switches aren't doing a damn thing.

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2012, 08:22:45 PM »
Humm if the CS is fine then the next step is to get rid of that fault code - you won't get any of the switches to do a thing if the MFSW controller can't "see" the wheel controller.

The other thing is that soft-code. I had all manner of issues as I guessed my way through the codes, it could be as simple as the code isn't correct for your setup. Have you tried 00008 as the soft code?
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2012, 05:07:04 PM »
Very quick update, re-checked wiring everything is where it should be, all feeds are giving 12volts,permanent live is permanent, all grounds are correct, yet the steering wheel will not illuminate, and the diagnostics just keeps coming back with no comms to MFSW controller, so I think the controller may be dead?, on a plus point finally got rid of the airbag warning, the system needed resetting, now airbag fault clear and no warning light! At least something has been fixed :D. Mark, as far as the soft coding goes the 01028 is the coding the VCM put into the controller when programming the module, right before it all went tits up! :( As I can no longer get into the damn thing can't try any other soft codes, which is why I'm leaning towards the controller being dead. Any other suggestions as to what to try?

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2012, 10:41:57 PM »
Ahhhhhh I finally understand, through you could access the MFSW controller but IT couldn't see the steering wheel controller. You can't access it full stop right?

The softcode won't have effected that in any way so the only thing to check there is that the K-Line is still connected (Pin 6) and maybe try unplugging the controller for 10 mins just in case its got some kind of bug after the programming.
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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2012, 08:01:22 AM »
Correct, can no longer access the controller full stop, it did work for about five minutes but went tits up half through programming and locked up the VCM, as a result cannot reset the fault code either, the entire car was powered down( battery disconnected ) overnight Friday and still no comms, :( which is why I'm beginning to think the controller is dead. At the dealers request the car has been booked in to have the wiring checked by a ford tech just to shut them up and before I can get a replacement controller. So looks like another 10 days before new controller arrives. Hopefully new won't decide to die half through programming!  :D

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Re: Steering Wheel Radio remote switches
« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2012, 05:58:23 PM »
Yeah that sounds like controllers screwed - bummer :(
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