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Title: Definitive jacking & axle stand points
Post by: Munzy on April 01, 2017, 12:27:45 AM
This is driving me crazy!

I cannot seem to find a common agreement on where to put the axle stands on the MK3 Galaxy. (some jokers say just use the same places as the MK2!!!)

I am happy enough lifting the car where the manual shows with a Mondeo MK4 scissor jack even though it seems like madness to lift a car on thin strip of metal (I had crushed sills on a MK2 and hated them). I am going to use a trolley jack with a piece of wood cut to copy the head of the Mondeo jack:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-MONDEO-MK4-2007-2010-CAR-JACK-KIT-KP57-/252803007744?hash=item3adc3bc500:g:lC8AAOSwB-1Yv5jr (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-MONDEO-MK4-2007-2010-CAR-JACK-KIT-KP57-/252803007744?hash=item3adc3bc500:g:lC8AAOSwB-1Yv5jr)

I want to fit front brake discs/pads so need to use axle stands but cannot find anywhere or anyone who can identify exactly where to put them - can someone please help? Preferably with pictures/diagram.
Title: Re: Definitive jacking & axle stand points
Post by: johnnyroper on April 01, 2017, 09:11:24 AM
No idea on set up under them but could you jack and stand on the subframe structure as that should be strong enough to take it? On my x type I jack in centre of frame at the rear and put stands at side where lower arms attach.
Title: Re: Definitive jacking & axle stand points
Post by: Chrispb on April 01, 2017, 09:55:46 AM
Most cars now you need to jack from behind front wheels because of plastic covers, on any car I always jack on an area of the subframe where it attaches to the body.
Title: Re: Definitive jacking & axle stand points
Post by: insanitybeard on April 01, 2017, 01:54:39 PM
For the most part, most modern Fords are ok to jack on the sills- however, whereas in a garage with e.g 2 post ramps and rubber covered pads on the contact points of the lifting arms this is fine, I would not use axle stands directly on the sills as the contact area is quite small (and it's metal on metal) meaning damage could occur. Using a trolley jack on the sills is ok if it's got a rubber pad on the saddle, or I use a block of wood if not.

Unlike Ford however, I discovered the hard way in my early days that VW's (and by the same token the Mk1/2 Galaxies as they are basically VW designs) are not designed to be jacked on the sills, they are not load bearing and will crush if you do jack them there!

What I tend to do usually is use a trolley jack and block of wood on one of the box sections under the vehicle (or sill if suitable/ appropriate) and then once the trolley jack has lifted the vehicle up then position an axle stand under  e.g one of the main front or rear subframe mounting bolts as Chris/ johnnyroper has said or other suitably strong load bearing area. Of course, some vehicles have dedicated jacking points fitted.
Title: Re: Definitive jacking & axle stand points
Post by: Munzy on April 16, 2017, 03:43:29 PM
Ended up using the points marked in the handbook on the seem on the sill even though it is so unbelievably thin!

Jacked up one side at a time using a Mondeo MK4 scissor jack and then an axle stand right next to it on that thin seem.

Worked fine and front brakes done in 2 hours - that was 110 for 2 discs and full set of pads, Brembo as well, which is nice :)

Reckon it would have been about 300+ at a garage with OEM or less parts.