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Author Topic: re map  (Read 1336 times)

Offline gregers

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re map
« on: July 17, 2017, 08:26:27 PM »
thinking about having a remap done,and so far my research has concluded that with the t5 the best way forward is to have it done by 'pendle' lots of good reviews from various t5 forums.
but recently reading a thread on here about remapping,and mirez doesnt recommend a rolling road as they can potentially be clutch killers?
now in my research they recommend a rolling road so as to measure all the blocks etc prior to fitting the remap so as to ascertain how much the components can safely handle,then they will advise on what upgrade they reckon will be best.
i have a few months before i really decide as my warranty runs out in october.
any input plz ta muchly.
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Offline johnnyroper

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Re: re map
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2017, 08:43:39 PM »
Back in my Subaru days I had it mapped after mods by a well respected mapper in the scooby community.
His advise was to have it mapped during real life conditions and not on a dyno/rolling road he didn't specifically say clutch killer but you get a better outcome in the real world conditions.That was a bespoke map rather than a generic model specific one though. I remember spending hours with him sat there in passenger seat with laptop and his det cans on just driving at all different speeds,revs and driving conditions to get it spot on. Due to the mods it wouldn't run at all initially so he put a base one on then we drive round so he could assess what all the sensors etc were doing prior to making adjustments.
It wasn't cheap but the results were impressive car ran lovely and returned better mpg than standard even running the max safe bhp/torque the standard clutch/trans could handle.

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Re: re map
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2017, 11:34:01 PM »
Spend the money on an individual map, rather than something like a Revo or Smoke map.
It'll be tailored to your vehicle and needs, and not a basic standard that everyone gets.

And (I'm assuming the T5 is diesel?), you'd be much better off going to a VAG mapper.
Travel for the right company, too.
There's a great one in Manchester and another in Barnsley.

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Re: re map
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2017, 08:50:51 PM »
cheers peeps for your feedback so far.
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Offline SirDavidAlhambra

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Re: re map
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2019, 09:17:27 PM »
Truth be known, itís better just to get a car with a Bigger engine to start with.

Iím always a bit wary of remaps, people say theyíre ok but I canít help but feel it will wear the engine out faster
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all.

Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

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Re: re map
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2019, 11:53:48 PM »
Not at all even a bigger engine comes with a generic map that goes on all of them. Also manufacturers wouldnít offer their own performance maps if it wasnít suitable or wore engine out faster they still have to honour warranty. Take the bmw performance pack on a 335 it increases power and torque,and currently driving one it is a noticeable change. Acceleration is phenomenal with a nicer exhaust note yet retains standard mpg.
A proper bespoke map is tailored to your specific car and to your needs,a proper mapper will tailor to what you require and what your car can safely handle.
My scooby mapped genuinely returned better mpg than standard map yet power was increased substantially
« Last Edit: July 07, 2019, 12:02:09 AM by johnnyroper »

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Re: re map
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2019, 08:52:53 PM »
yeah i will be going for a tailored remap for my van,consensus seems to be either revo or pendle.
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Offline SirDavidAlhambra

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Re: re map
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2019, 08:03:59 PM »
Do they rev the car up loads when they do the remap? I get anxious when mechanics rev my car up

Also would the gearbox wear out faster because of all the power (auto gearbox)

Thank you
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all.

Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

Offline Mirez

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Re: re map
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2019, 08:59:03 PM »
No, most remaps are generic for the specific model. Ie, they are produced for ONE car with that engine and then copied to other cars with the same engine so the only one that ever goes through the full remap process (with rolling road etc) is the first ever car. That said why are you nervous? Its still operating well within its limits when revved.

Gearboxes are typically designed to handle much more torque (power won't cause any issue) then standard anyway, normally its the same box fitted to the range for example the 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 all share the same box and clutch just with different gear ratios.

I've had all of mine remapped, the Galaxy was done 80K miles / 11 years ago now (wow where has that time gone) and still on original engine, gearbox and injectors.
03 Ford Galaxy 1.9 TDI 115 Ghia in Spruce Green Metallic
With cream leather interior, Full Bodykit, Remapped at 145bhp, Lowered on 18's
06 VW EOS 2.0 T-FSI 210 Sport in Deep Black Pearl
With red leather interior with full Caractere bodykit, Remapped at 255bhp and sitting on 19's
14 VW Tiguan 2.0 TDI 177 R-Line in Deep Black Pearl
With black leather interior, panoramic sunroof and bi-xenon headlights.
08 Ford Transit 2.2 TDI 115 in Frozen White
With retrofitted everything except another slidey door! :)

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Re: re map
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2019, 11:00:15 PM »
When my Subaru was done with bespoke map we started gentle driving while mapper tweaked stuff while listening with his det cans on. Once he was happy we did some spirited full throttle runs in 3rd again he was tweaking stuff and listening for detonation.
I donít see an issue with revving an engine up personally they are designed to be able to take it and it actually does them good. Obviously not holding it on the limiter for extensive periods.

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Re: re map
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2019, 10:49:02 AM »
Perfect example is to look at the newer Transit;
They come in the following engine powers of 100hp, 125hp & 155hp.
They all use the same engine & associated components, but theyíll all remap to 180hp+ with the right work.

Canít say your wary of remaps if you buy one of these either, much like the Ďperformance packsí with BMW and some of the ĎAudi Performance+í, a little tinkering is all it takes.

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Re: re map
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2019, 12:46:37 PM »
It sounds like a remap could be a very good thing. My car is a 2006 Alhamb with auto gearbox and 115bhp. I really like the car and donít want to break it but it sounds like a remap is very safe? Are there any tell-tell signs to look out for to know if the remapping person is good at it or do they just plug up a laptop and load some software so no knowledge needed really. Would my car benefit from being remapped? Also does the gearbox know when to change gear at the right time if the engine is more powerful? Thank you
I drive a Seat Alhambra 1.9Tdi which has 115bhp and an automatic gearbox.

I am happy to help you with all your questions. I am not a qualified mechanic but seem to be better at fixing my car than even the most experienced garages.

I have lots of friends here and very much enjoy talking with you all.

Always remember, a motor car is a serious tool and should be treated with respect. Put your safety first, always.

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Re: re map
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2019, 09:59:42 PM »
wait until mot time and see how much the rev the nuts of tdi cars,thats why they ask how old the timing belt it lol.

still waiting to get the van done,will do it eventually.and i will make sure mine goes on a rolling road,rather then a generic 1 for my van,that way they can check themselves if anything is fubared or worn.

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